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	<title>Comments on: Emergents: When Skeptics Play Church</title>
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	<description>A Critical Study of a New Book by Tony Jones</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 20:23:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Many False Christs &#171; In the Wilderness of a Perishing World</title>
		<link>http://newchristian.wordpress.com/2008/03/16/emergents-when-skeptics-play-church/#comment-52</link>
		<dc:creator>Many False Christs &#171; In the Wilderness of a Perishing World</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 22:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] absolute indescribable hugeness of that which we call God&#8220;. That statement parallels the Emergent church&#8217;s statement about the Gospel, that it &#8220;is the irreducible good news of God, ultimately delivered in the person of Jesus [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] absolute indescribable hugeness of that which we call God&#8220;. That statement parallels the Emergent church&#8217;s statement about the Gospel, that it &#8220;is the irreducible good news of God, ultimately delivered in the person of Jesus [...]</p>
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		<title>By: reburris</title>
		<link>http://newchristian.wordpress.com/2008/03/16/emergents-when-skeptics-play-church/#comment-13</link>
		<dc:creator>reburris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 17:20:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Post liberal cult? Yes.

Tony tries to pain himself as neutral, but he shoots himself in the foot with a great deal of his rhetoric.

Barney Fife comes to mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Post liberal cult? Yes.</p>
<p>Tony tries to pain himself as neutral, but he shoots himself in the foot with a great deal of his rhetoric.</p>
<p>Barney Fife comes to mind.</p>
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		<title>By: pastorboy</title>
		<link>http://newchristian.wordpress.com/2008/03/16/emergents-when-skeptics-play-church/#comment-11</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 15:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post, Doug.

What I find most telling, and you didn't mention this in your article is the dinner at Olive Garden with an unnamed Pastor, Doug Pagitt, and Tony Jones. 

Jones kindly insults the pastor, for his biblical view that God's anger burns against human sin. He rails on the pastor for using biblical language like wrath, hate, and blood. He belittles the pastor for bringing a Bible to lunch as Doug and He had brought books they had written to give as gifts. He goes further, insulting this pastor for refusing to work with Doug and Tony because they don't believe in the penal substitutionary atonement.

Jones tries to say that we generic christians should all envelop one another's view in an 'envelope of friendship' instead of being concerned over 'fixed points of doctrine'. What it all comes down to is a hyper-arminian view of man, and a view of the cross that heals broken relationships in the world, just one of which is our broken relationship with God.

Ultimately, it is this low view of scripture that brings about the liberal teachings of the emergent movement. Ken Silva is so right in calling this a post liberal cult.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post, Doug.</p>
<p>What I find most telling, and you didn&#8217;t mention this in your article is the dinner at Olive Garden with an unnamed Pastor, Doug Pagitt, and Tony Jones. </p>
<p>Jones kindly insults the pastor, for his biblical view that God&#8217;s anger burns against human sin. He rails on the pastor for using biblical language like wrath, hate, and blood. He belittles the pastor for bringing a Bible to lunch as Doug and He had brought books they had written to give as gifts. He goes further, insulting this pastor for refusing to work with Doug and Tony because they don&#8217;t believe in the penal substitutionary atonement.</p>
<p>Jones tries to say that we generic christians should all envelop one another&#8217;s view in an &#8216;envelope of friendship&#8217; instead of being concerned over &#8216;fixed points of doctrine&#8217;. What it all comes down to is a hyper-arminian view of man, and a view of the cross that heals broken relationships in the world, just one of which is our broken relationship with God.</p>
<p>Ultimately, it is this low view of scripture that brings about the liberal teachings of the emergent movement. Ken Silva is so right in calling this a post liberal cult.</p>
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